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mommydama ([personal profile] mommydama) wrote2008-11-02 10:53 am

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Is it worth it to vote for a third party? Because I'm seriously thinking about it. I feel like it is sort of a "lose the battle to win the war" kind of thing. I want to vote. I feel guilty not voting. But I just CANNOT bring myself to vote for one of the two major party candidates. But I could vote for a third party. I'm not telling who or which one. I don't want to get into the debates and ugliness on LJ. But I've found a candidate I could get behind. Is it worthless? I know it will make no difference in THIS election. But the more people are willing to vote their conscience and support third parties the stronger they will become. It seems like they get stronger every election.

I WANT to vote for someone for the first time in months. Should I do it?

[identity profile] altarflame.livejournal.com 2008-11-02 05:26 pm (UTC)(link)
I am having a bit of a major personal crisis with this, as I increasingly want to see Obama win but am too conflicted by his extreme abortion stance to be able to stomach voting for him.

But me as a person who read all those harlem rennaissance books, and so much slave-time historical fiction, and grew up in a VERY racist family...I'm SO HYPED to see a black man become president.

And me as a person who's seen only cynical, critical views on this country for years, I'm so ready to have a uniting force the media will back and other countries will admire and poor and gay people will even like.

Me as an environmentalist, me as a pacifist, all kinds of things. I am crossing my fingers...

But I just can't vote for him, I get sick to my stomach about it. I am ashamed of not voting but I don't feel like I, in good conscience, can.
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[identity profile] mercyorbemoaned.livejournal.com 2008-11-02 06:29 pm (UTC)(link)
Plus there's the fact that Obama's family history has about as much to do with American slavery as mine does with Russians.

[identity profile] lil-irish-lass.livejournal.com 2008-11-02 06:30 pm (UTC)(link)
Thanks for the Huntley Brown article :) I found it moving as well. Voting for anyone based on the color of their skin is racist, no matter how well intentioned you are about it. Skin color has nothing to do with someone's ability to lead effectively.

Even if he wasn't pro-choice, I wouldn't vote for him, because I don't agree with most of his policies (I lean Libertarian). And I want our troops to come home, Obama doesn't. He is not the anti-war candidate that the media paints him, his voting record shows this as well has his own words explaining how he wants to funnel the troops from Iraq into a new war with Pakistan. Sigh.

[identity profile] marliah.livejournal.com 2008-11-03 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
dude you so don't want him for president. You have children, that alone ought to be reason enough.

Just because he is black does not make him a good person.

[identity profile] justamy.livejournal.com 2008-11-03 05:32 am (UTC)(link)
He has children, too.

I can totally understand why you don't want him to be president, even though I disagree. But I don't really understand why you think he's a bad person.
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[identity profile] marliah.livejournal.com 2008-11-03 11:44 am (UTC)(link)
because he is for infanticide and partial birth abortion.

Which is evil and murder, even you pro choice types know that birthing a baby stabbing it in the head and sucking its brains out is murder.

[identity profile] justamy.livejournal.com 2008-11-03 12:33 pm (UTC)(link)
I don't think you have any idea whether or not I am pro-choice.

[identity profile] justamy.livejournal.com 2008-11-04 10:44 pm (UTC)(link)
I've been trying really hard to NOT be inflammatory about this. And you don't have to respond, but, at the risk of really bugging Dama, I feel I MUST say this, and that she will understand:

Your comment here truly and deeply offends me. Please do not EVER assume to know my beliefs based on my Livejournal icon EVER again. Your wording "you pro-choice types" is demeaning and belittling, not to mention judgmental and EXTREMELY presumptuous.

I just had to get that off my chest, and I hope that I did so in a respectful way.